[21.04.2010] Gracia Final Опции

[deepSilent]

Dear players!
Currently, we are dealing with small technical issues on x300 server.As soon we finish,you will not be able to use old client anymore because you'll need Gracia Final!
You can download it here and here. (4.53 Gb).
After downloading,you must import patch. While the server is turned off, you can discuss this news on the forum and vote for us in the rankings.


We congratulate you on starting a new phase in the life of The Abyss, and we wish you a pleasant game.

Сообщение было отредактировано deepSilent: Апрель 21 2010, 18:34

[RiederCZ]

Iď like to ask you if it will be possible to log in game without reactivating account?? Problem is that most of players dont know neither email, nor date of registration of account. Some accounts were passed by now not playing people to those, who play even today. (Biggest problem is, that our CL is not playing anymore and thereґs no possible contact with him)

Thank you for your reply

Сообщение было отредактировано RiederCZ: Апрель 22 2010, 18:55

[deepSilent]

Only 1 log in private cabinet will be necessary.

[RiederCZ]

Thank you for your reply

[ToadLord]

Could you remove Double weight limit - pasive skill?
If you wanna to increase weight capacity then add for all classes the same ammount of weight limit.
Currently x2 couses :
Dominator from 78k -> 156k weight limit (78k bonus)
Hawkeye from 114k -> 228k weight limit (114k bonus)

I think its huge advantage. Add to all classes Const value of weight limit or remove this skill permamently. Removing it will couse L2Control less effective at AutoCP recovery and will limit postexploited augments.
Base weight capacity is not bad at all, but considering x3 rates (more weapons etc) i think that best way would be add some Const-value ammount of Weight points to all classes.

3-4 years ago Administration did removed Mining from our servers and said :
"We wanna make server same like oficial"

We have 2 mods in our game :
-Double weight limit
-Mana drugs

Consider removing those or limiting it.

Сообщение было отредактировано ToadLord: Апрель 23 2010, 00:19

[Loviria]

U cant use ACP with Gracia Final client.

[ToadLord]

But you can use L2Control and L2IG walker :D

Doubling weight limit couse double RaceBenefits of CON.
It's to big advantage.
Best way would be removing DoubleWeight couse Weight is part of game and Belt's from territory war's adds 12k+ weight points to base limit. With Belt + Drac LA you can get 2-3 weaponz + 500+ CP pots.

Plz remove double weight or switch that to static value of Weight points added to all classes. Example to make from 80k to 120k (40k) and DD's from 120k to 160k, but not doubling values.

[Nadesico]

weight limit is based on con dude wth u think sagi has more weight then domi CUZ SAGI HAS MORE CON so stop sayin crap like this that they should tinker with weight limit n addin your preferences on it just because some classes (races) can carry more while others less
they wanna be close like retail then it should stay like that so stop whinin just cuz sagi has more con then domi
they added that passive weight cuz they wanted it so be glad that u can carry x2 amaunt then on retail so now that u suggest also to remove it then ull carry x2 time less then before
n even if they remove the weight passive skill the end result would STILL BE THE SAME SAGI WILL STILL HAVE MORE WEIGHT LIMIT THEN DOMI CUZ OF CON DIFERENCE!!!!!
so again stop cryin abaut sumtin that is completely unnecessary n to completely change the weight limit just cause ur domi cant carry that much cuz sagi can
seriously u the 1st ever i saw that is complainin abaut that n that they should put on all classes same amaunt of weight rofl go on +5 con with dyes on domi then ull be close on it to sagi on weight limit
maybe i should go n say for example that they should change the patk value n put on all chars the same patk dependin on what weapon they carry (for example with sword 500patk while with bow they would have 1500patk) so that all of them can do the same amaunt of dmg (this would be rly funny roflmao)
also get some god damn basic knowledge abaut races/classes n their stats before u go n start postin crap like that

Сообщение было отредактировано Nadesico: Апрель 24 2010, 06:20

[Loviria]

I DEMAND that all classes will have same amount of CP, HP and MP so pvp will be more fair!

[ToadLord]

Nadesico you are stupid kid.
Can't you understand that Doubling value's change difference of 30k to difference of 60k?
To get balance, difference should stay the same, but ammount of weight could be increased. For example add to all classes const value of weight (50k or more) not 140k to one class and 60k to another. Couse of That AutoCP at fighter's classes are much more effective and belive me, abyss won't secure server from such softwares.
Im 100% you are using ACP or L2Control or you have 5 exploted augments so you are afraid of changes.

Lovirina sarcastic flooder.

[Nadesico]

dude i dont even use that kind of crap never have n never will
also i dont even have 5 exploited agus on 5 weapons u can even ask deep here to check ma accunts on what i have n post it here
if u that so sure abaut it how abaut abyss puts the antibot program that other servers use n then we shall see who here will get baned cuz of usin outside programs
n u r the one that is a stupid kid or u still dont get it do ya??? ima put it in the simple way now
wth u think double weight skill is????? IT DOUBLES THE AMOUNT OF WEIGHT CHARS HAVE AND WEIGHT LIMIT IS BASED ON CON N SAGI HAS MORE CON THEN DOMI
so if sagi has on normal 114k and domi 78k that is the diference of 36k weight
now addin the double weight passive skill sagi has 228k domi has 156k diference is now 72k
so to put it even more simply if sagi can only have 300 cp n domi 200 cp in inv on normal with double passive sagi will then have 600 n domi 400 cp in inv

To get balance, difference should stay the same, but ammount of weight could be increased. For example add to all classes const value of weight (50k or more) not 140k to one class and 60k to another. Couse of That AutoCP at fighter's classes are much more effective and belive me, abyss won't secure server from such softwares.

n this is ur suggestion now:
sagi has on normal 114k and domi 78k that is the diference of 36k weight
now add that 50k of weight
sagi has now 164k and domi 128k the diference is still 36k


IT WONT MAKE ANY GOD DAMN DIFERENCE ON IT CUZ SAGI WILL STILL CARRY MORE CP N MORE WEAPONS THEN DOMI IN INV EVEN WITH ONLY 50k ADD OF WEIGHT ON BOTH CLASSES!!!!!
WHY U THINK 1 CLASS GETS 140k N OTHER 60k FROM DOUBLE WEIGHT PASSIVE????? IMA SAY THIS AGAIN ITS CUZ WEIGHT LIMIT IS BASED ON CON!!!!!! N SAGI HAS MORE CON THEN DOMI!!!!!!!!!!!
THOSE PROGRAMS DONT EVEN MAKE ANY KIND OF DIFERENCE AT ALL IF U HAVE NORMAL/DOUBLE OR 50k ADD OF WEIGHT LIMIT THE END RESULT WILL STILL BE FAKIN SAME!!!!! N THAT IS SAGI WILL ALWAYS CARRY MORE THEN DOMI!!!!

so for gods sake stop god damn cryin here abaut how 1 class can carry more then the other n how unfair it is cuz of races con difference even with the double passive applied on all
if u dont god damn like it how ncsoft made it then go n play tetris or mario w/e

Сообщение было отредактировано Nadesico: Апрель 24 2010, 06:21

[Loviria]

Lovirina sarcastic flooder.

Goddamn, u onlooked my disguise

(...)GETS 140k N OTHER 60k FROM DOUBLE WEIGHT PASSIVE????? IMA SAY THIS AGAIN ITS CUZ WEIGHT LIMIT IS BASED ON CON!!!!!! N SAGI HAS MORE CON THEN DOMI!!!!!!!!!!!
THOSE PROGRAMS DONT EVEN MAKE ANY KIND OF DIFERENCE AT ALL IF U HAVE NORMAL/DOUBLE OR 50k ADD OF WEIGHT LIMIT THE END RESULT WILL STILL BE FAKIN SAME!!!!! N THAT IS SAGI WILL ALWAYS CARRY MORE THEN DO(...)

[Nadesico]

caps lock rulz yo

n here for ya lovi some beer



Сообщение было отредактировано Nadesico: Апрель 24 2010, 15:24

[ToadLord]

...
so if sagi has on normal 114k and domi 78k that is the diference of 36k weight
now addin the double weight passive skill sagi has 228k domi has 156k diference is now 72k
so to put it even more simply if sagi can only have 300 cp n domi 200 cp in inv on normal with double passive sagi will then have 600 n domi 400 cp in inv
...

Sagitarius base weight limit = 114k
Dominator base weight limit = 78k

Difference = 46%
So basicly sagi pick e.g. 700CP potions and dominator pick 322 cp potions
Doubling weight limit couse them to pick Sagi 1400, Domi 644...
its still 46% but ammount of CP that one wear is huge. And durring pvp with auto CP softwares, DD classes gain huge advantage vs mage classes.
And we all know that probably everyone use's Nostromo or some autoCP software.
My idea is to limit AutoCP softwares usage.

Сообщение было отредактировано ToadLord: Апрель 24 2010, 18:14

[Nadesico]

mky i already said this quite a lot here so here it goes again

Sagitarius base weight limit = 114k
Dominator base weight limit = 78k

Difference = 46%
So basicly sagi pick e.g. 700CP potions and dominator pick 322 cp potions
Doubling weight limit couse them to pick Sagi 1400, Domi 644...
its still 46% but ammount of CP that one wear is huge.

weight limit is based on CON and each race and their specific class types fighter n mystics have different con stats n fighters have more con then mystics
ima add here dwarfs just to compare with sagi n domi here

sagi (human fighter) 43 con = 114k weight limit
domi (orc mystic) 31 con = 78k weight limit
dwarf (fighter) 45 con = 116k weight limit

now im goin to add weight passive skill that dwarfs can learn up to lvl 3

dwarf (fighter) 45 con + weight limit lvl3 (quadruples weight limit) = 464k weight limit

so why r u only complainin abaut sagis n not on dwarfs??? cuz they can carry a bit more then sagi can cuz of more con + addin the weight skill that they can learn hm????

And durring pvp with auto CP softwares, DD classes gain huge advantage vs mage classes.

double weight limit doesnt give any advantage by it dude the end result is still goin to be the same instead of usin up normal amaunt of cp pots both classes are goin to use up x2 more just cause the double weight limit gives a bit more longer pvp then on base weight cuz both of them can carry now x2 more cp pots

And we all know that probably everyone use's Nostromo or some autoCP software.

i can tell u this not everyone uses those cuz there are pepls that are playin fair n square n im one of them that doesnt use some crap shit software to help me out in pvp cuz u lose or win with or without usin them

My idea is to limit AutoCP softwares usage.

the only good idea here is that abyss goes n starts usin the antibot program so that pepls that are usin those nifty lil outside softwares will get auto banned from it
seriously u would then start seein lots of epic forum posts with the lines "why did i get banned i havent broken any rules" or "i never used any kind of outside programs so why did i get banned"
i can guarantee u on it u would hard on those pepls how much they would try to make themselfs innocent lookin on forums
n then admins would come n post the part of antibot log on how they got caught n got banned by it pure ownage rly

We have 2 mods in our game :
-Double weight limit
-Mana drugs

n btw there are actualy more then those 2 mods on abyss :P

Сообщение было отредактировано Nadesico: Апрель 25 2010, 05:04

[ToadLord]

They wont get rid of bots and L2control and activity of Gm's ingame is poor so none is afraided of ban. They log and flood about some Event's instead checking ppl that use acp or l2control.

Сообщение было отредактировано ToadLord: Апрель 25 2010, 09:48

[Nadesico]

naturaly as long as abyss wont start usin the antibot program properly as other private servers do pepls will continue to use them in mass
it is rly hard to tell who is usin a bot n who dont (cuz over the years they got pretty advanced n smart now) but there are patterns that reveals bots out from normal players
n to go and check manualy for those ingame n logs is a bit hard n long cuz it can take hours for it everyday just to check out all the players

Сообщение было отредактировано Nadesico: Апрель 25 2010, 22:25

[Loviria]

[BoomItsOn]

Loviria win this time :D

[Loviria]

Sec, sec, I'm not sure.... are u insulting me? >.<

[BoomItsOn]

who knows, I can't control how you take a joke

[ToadLord]

Any approximate date's of updating rest of servers?

[Loviria]

Any approximate date's of updating rest of servers?

"When it's done"

[Thant]

Or a few days later.

[CoFFeeN]

GF is going to be on x7 today.
Be ready!

[Diegooooo]

GF is going to be on x7 today.
Be ready!

finaly... thx for info coffen...btw i hope it work good becoz i see x300 log in down many times after GF...

[BoomItsOn]

diegoooo, if u are on gracia part 2 client x300 login is always down...

[KayzerSoze]

x7 needs different patch or same as x300/x3000??
finally final

[Diegooooo]

diegoooo, if u are on gracia part 2 client x300 login is always down...

ofc i checked on GF abyss .. i was cheking updates there ^^